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add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
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                 Key: CAMEL-1171
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
             Project: Apache Camel
          Issue Type: Improvement
            Reporter: James Strachan
             Fix For: 2.0.0


Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.

Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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[jira] Assigned: (CAMEL-1171) add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL

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Willem Jiang reassigned CAMEL-1171:
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    Assignee: Willem Jiang

> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: Willem Jiang
>             Fix For: 2.0.0
>
>
> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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[jira] Updated: (CAMEL-1171) add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL

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Willem Jiang updated CAMEL-1171:
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    Fix Version/s: 1.5.1

> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: Willem Jiang
>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>
>
> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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Re: [jira] Updated: (CAMEL-1171) add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL

Ramon Buckland
The inOnly and inOut, robustInOnly and inOptionalOut are standard MEP's so
would make sense to stick with them.
my 2cents

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 20:42, Willem Jiang (JIRA) <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel]
>
> Willem Jiang updated CAMEL-1171:
> --------------------------------
>
>    Fix Version/s: 1.5.1
>
> > add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow
> explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >                 Key: CAMEL-1171
> >                 URL:
> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
> >             Project: Apache Camel
> >          Issue Type: Improvement
> >            Reporter: James Strachan
> >            Assignee: Willem Jiang
> >             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
> >
> >
> > Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint
> prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the
> route.
> > Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the
> best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?
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Re: [jira] Updated: (CAMEL-1171) add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL

Claus Ibsen-2
Hi Willem

Yeah align with the SMX team what patterns is used there.

Keep the fluent builders to only commonly used
- InOnly
- InOut
is fine, if that is what the SMX team always uses.

Adding all the others might confuse people what the heck a RobustInOnly is etc.

/Claus Ibsen
Apache Camel Committer
Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/



On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Ramon Buckland <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The inOnly and inOut, robustInOnly and inOptionalOut are standard MEP's so
> would make sense to stick with them.
> my 2cents
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 20:42, Willem Jiang (JIRA) <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>>     [
>> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel]
>>
>> Willem Jiang updated CAMEL-1171:
>> --------------------------------
>>
>>    Fix Version/s: 1.5.1
>>
>> > add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow
>> explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
>> >
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>> >                 URL:
>> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>> >             Project: Apache Camel
>> >          Issue Type: Improvement
>> >            Reporter: James Strachan
>> >            Assignee: Willem Jiang
>> >             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>> >
>> >
>> > Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint
>> prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the
>> route.
>> > Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the
>> best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?
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James Strachan commented on CAMEL-1171:
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I was thinking maybe the to() methods could take as a 2nd optional argument an ExchangePattern - if folks wanted to use the uncommon stuff (RobustInOut etc).

then inOnly(uri|endpoint) would be shorthand for to(uri|endpoint, InOnly) and ditto for inOut(uri|endpoint)




> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: Willem Jiang
>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>
>
> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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Re: [jira] Commented: (CAMEL-1171) add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL

Ramon Buckland
This is much clearer and concise. nice.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 21:08, James Strachan (JIRA) <[hidden email]>wrote:

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> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=48021#action_48021]
>
> James Strachan commented on CAMEL-1171:
> ---------------------------------------
>
> I was thinking maybe the to() methods could take as a 2nd optional argument
> an ExchangePattern - if folks wanted to use the uncommon stuff (RobustInOut
> etc).
>
> then inOnly(uri|endpoint) would be shorthand for to(uri|endpoint, InOnly)
> and ditto for inOut(uri|endpoint)
>
>
>
>
> > add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow
> explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >                 Key: CAMEL-1171
> >                 URL:
> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
> >             Project: Apache Camel
> >          Issue Type: Improvement
> >            Reporter: James Strachan
> >            Assignee: Willem Jiang
> >             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
> >
> >
> > Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint
> prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the
> route.
> > Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the
> best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?
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Claus Ibsen commented on CAMEL-1171:
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+1 to James suggestions

> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: camel-core
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: Willem Jiang
>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>
>
> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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[jira] Updated: (CAMEL-1171) add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL

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Claus Ibsen updated CAMEL-1171:
-------------------------------

    Component/s: camel-core
     Issue Type: New Feature  (was: Improvement)

> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: camel-core
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: Willem Jiang
>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>
>
> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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Re: [jira] Updated: (CAMEL-1171) add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL

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Yes, InOnly and InOut is enough for us now.
BTW, if you want to set the ExchangePattern other than the upper 2
pattern, you could call the setExchangePattern(ExchangePattern ep) in
the builder.

Willem

Claus Ibsen wrote:

> Hi Willem
>
> Yeah align with the SMX team what patterns is used there.
>
> Keep the fluent builders to only commonly used
> - InOnly
> - InOut
> is fine, if that is what the SMX team always uses.
>
> Adding all the others might confuse people what the heck a RobustInOnly is etc.
>
> /Claus Ibsen
> Apache Camel Committer
> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Ramon Buckland <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> The inOnly and inOut, robustInOnly and inOptionalOut are standard MEP's so
>> would make sense to stick with them.
>> my 2cents
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 20:42, Willem Jiang (JIRA) <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>>     [
>>> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel]
>>>
>>> Willem Jiang updated CAMEL-1171:
>>> --------------------------------
>>>
>>>    Fix Version/s: 1.5.1
>>>
>>>> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow
>>> explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>>>>                 URL:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>>>>             Project: Apache Camel
>>>>          Issue Type: Improvement
>>>>            Reporter: James Strachan
>>>>            Assignee: Willem Jiang
>>>>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint
>>> prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the
>>> route.
>>>> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the
>>> best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?
>>>
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James Strachan reassigned CAMEL-1171:
-------------------------------------

    Assignee: James Strachan  (was: Willem Jiang)

> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: camel-core
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: James Strachan
>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>
>
> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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James Strachan commented on CAMEL-1171:
---------------------------------------

added the <inOnly> and <inOut> XML elements - just need the Java DSL hacked, tests and documentation...

> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: camel-core
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: James Strachan
>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>
>
> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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James Strachan commented on CAMEL-1171:
---------------------------------------

refactoring Willem's change so that to(endpoint, pattern) becomes to(pattern, endpoint) so that we can use the same ordering of parameters with the ... notation.

e.g.

{code}
to(InOut, uri1, uri2, uri3, ...)
{code}



> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: camel-core
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: James Strachan
>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>
>
> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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Willem Jiang commented on CAMEL-1171:
-------------------------------------

Good point.
 I'd to admit James always thinks ahead of me.

> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: camel-core
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: James Strachan
>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>
>
> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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James Strachan commented on CAMEL-1171:
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:) it was my duff suggestion to use it the other way around to start with :)

Just about done - gonna commit this minor change shortly.

BTW made another minor change - the ToType now can take an ExchangePattern constructor argument as well - so that when sending to an endpoint (the common use case for the inOut/inOnly methods), we don't need 2 steps in the route

> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: camel-core
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: James Strachan
>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
>
>
> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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[jira] Resolved: (CAMEL-1171) add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL

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James Strachan resolved CAMEL-1171.
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    Resolution: Fixed

see the example documentation here...

* [Request Reply|http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Request+Reply]
* [Event Message|http://cwiki.apache.org/CAMEL/event-message.html]



> add from(....).inOnly("....") or from("...").inOut("....") to allow explicit ExchangePatterns to be specified in the routing DSL
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>                 Key: CAMEL-1171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1171
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: camel-core
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: James Strachan
>             Fix For: 1.5.1, 2.0.0
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> Right now the *to* will use the current default pattern that an endpoint prefers. It would be good to allow it to be explicitly specified in the route.
> Not 100% sure the best names to use - is *inOnly()* and *inOut()* the best? Maybe *oneway()* and *request()*?

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